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they don't have enough time to explain how they will change your tax deductions, like your home mortgage tax deduction, in the romney/ryan tax plan. not enough time. they can't even say if you will pay more or less with their tax plan. well, mitt, i'm sure president obama will give you as many of his minutes as you need to explain it all in wednesday night's debate. >> mitt romney needs a great october. >> we know romney needs a great october. >> to change the course of this campaign. >> the final push is on. >> just days away from the first presidential debate. >> both candidates cramming for the first debate. >> everyone trying to lower expectations. >> franticly spinning to lower expectations. >> president obama is an experienced debatetor. >> i'm just okay. >> almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell thvernlths is mitt's first time. >> i don't buy that. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative of
: what do you think of mitt romney who he added more detail to the tax cut plan that he would get rid of special exemptions, allowances, what you talked about, like limit deductions to $17,000 total tops? >> well -- neil: made the prospects of tax rates going down to 20% to a lot of people less favorable, that they say, well, am i really going to do so well under this? what do you think? >> well, you don't have to use the horrible word that gets grover norquist to lose his mashbles while he wonders around the world and his wife cheats. neil: i take it you're not a fan? >> i'm not. anyone who signs something 15 years before the issue, you shouldn't be in congress to sign -- meal kneel no tax -- neil: no tax hike pledges? >> you don't have to do a, quote, "tax in connection -- "tax increase". you're not doing a tax increase. getting $6 billion out of ethanol, and grover calls that a tax increase. neil: you think the time came to face the american people, tell them this sort of thing that we're up against romney exploited so cautiously. some think it's too late for that. do you buy that?
. yet people still say, well, he's trying really i've. lori: he wants to try to cut tax of year and a higher percentage. 75 percent individual income rate. >> it is absurd. there is no economic basis for that other than we don't think people ought to earn that much money, so we're going to take away. that is socialism at its very essence. and so you elected socialist president. voila. you're going to have socialist policy, and that is what you have. he comes out with a 75% tax rate i chased the wealth of france. if you are a high income earner and investor, why on earth would you stay in france and have $0.75 out of every dollar taken away before you got a chance to spend it. almost any european country you could go and do better than that lori: do you think we're facing a similar path and the u.s. or do you expect americans to leave? >> it is very possible. there is some indication that some americans are already looking for ways to protect their income, protect their wealth. and you cannot blame them because of somebody -- i mean, it's the same thing. if i'm walking down sixth
mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need anymore teachers in our classrooms. don't boo, vote. [ cheers and applause ] but the fellow on stage last night, he loves teachers. can't get enough of them. the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said that if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current account. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he kn
rid of the charitable deduction, because that's the only way you have revenue neutrality in these tax cuts he's talking about. his only plan for economic improvement in this country is to cut the taxes mainly of the rich. that's his only plan. the only defense of this strategy is he's going to get rid of loopholes. tell us that, governor. show us what you're going to do or stop talking. i think he's got to be that aggressive. but the main message is, show me your cards. stop bluffing. >> we have seen a little bit of telegraphing this week from mr. romney, that maybe he will put some details into his economic talk. he's started to float some new ideas about taxes that he never floated before. my question is whether or not he thinks the right place to unveil those is in a debate setting. surprise the president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight,
>> eric: that's it for us. >> jamie: shannon? >> my plan is not to raise taxes on anyone. i'm going to reduce taxes for middle-income americans. >> mr. romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for. >> you can't have it both ways. a battle over $5 trillion, your tax dollars, president obama says a tax cut by the governor would roll out benefits to only the wealthiest americans at the cost of the middle class. romney says, no matter how many times the president says it it is not true. who is telling the truth? i'm shannon bream, live in washington. we have representatives from both sides of the aisle. rnc chairman, reince priebus and dnc chairwoman, debbie wasserman-schultz. welcome. we start in washington with reince priebus. i want to talk about the unemployment numbers for september, 7.8%, the lowest since president obama has been in office. he said, you can't turn back now, america is moving in the right direction. has he made a case that we are seeing recovery? >> not at all. first of all, we will let the economists argue over the numbers. i know people are
' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to rest and close the door on that. to prevent that the democrats were pumping out attack ads to keep it very much. >> bret: carl cameron, on your last point, almost everyone talking about wednesday's debate says mitt romney did pretty well or won, but how he won, that's the question, as carl mentioned, that has entered the post debate spin cycle. >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> stretching the truth or worse, that's how mitt romney won the debate. it's now a familiar refrain from democrats. echoed by sympathetic media outlets. >> i give him credit for a strong performance. i gi
tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. that's the math . we can't afford to go down that road again. >> steve: so the day after his terrible performance even the new york times called him president xannex. they have gone in damage control mode . they were portraying romney as an extremist and now back to romney is a flip-flopper and a big fact liar . >> brian: i thought the senator was right when team obama got a earful. the strategy was to lay back and not make major mistakes. governor romney will be a true choice. he defined himself as competent and capable . he was making himself relevant and holding the job. that's what you walk away . he undid over two million worth of advertising. >> gretchen: he had a answer about the five billion, trillion argument that the president said. he said that is not my tax plan. and you can see the difference when they are on a stage together going after each another and back out on the stump. on the stump you can say whatever you want. these are people supporting each cand date. this is a moment romney respondin
leader with the ability to take on the tasks at hand. to balance the budget, to expand the tax base, to give our children back the american dream. the candidate is ross perot. the issue is our children. the choice is yours. host: from 1992 when he ran his first of two independent bids for the white house, falling short in 1992 and 1996. one viewer says we need to listen to all points of view. we need third parties. one question is the role of third parties in politics. here is ross perot. >> you ran twice. you established the united we stand and the reform party. do you feel that is needed today? is there something wrong with the two party system that has gotten more acrimonious. >> it is almost impossible to do it. it would be a very healthy thing if you could get it done and make it happen. it is very difficult to do, and very few people would want to try to do it because they know they will be butchered from day one. much of the media will participate actively in that. host: the whole interview conducted by richard welfare's tomorrow evening at 9:00 eastern time -- richard wolf t
on c-span2, a look at what happens to individual taxes if the bush era tax cuts expire. former congressional budget office director douglas holtz-eakin and other economists look at the issue. our live coverage from the urban institute here in washington, d.c. starts at noon eastern. >> every generation through our history has worked and sacrificed to leave a better country to their children and grandchildren and future generations. we, we were then spending their money, we are now even more, much more, spending their money, and we are leaving them a mess that will be a very difficult to deal with, and if we are that weak, just think of who wants to come here first and take us over. now, the last thing i ever want to see is to see our country taken over because we're so financially weak we can't do anything. >> uh-huh. >> and we're moving in that direction. we're on the edge of the cliff, and we have got to start fixing it now, otherwise we're leaving a disaster to our children and grandchildren in the future, and we could even lose our country. >> ross perot, interviewed by "us
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and feeding off taxpayer money and not doing their job. .. and to close at, what is taking a 15% tax increase or we would have to reduce our personnel by 10%. that is 40 out of 400 employees would have to let go. so for the last 10 months, this is in my largest haul. i've the market every day in the budget turned to come up with creative ways to increase revenue, creative ways to reduce costs. we have a laundry list of initiatives. and yesterday, i propose my budget proposal for the next year that will close the $3 million deficit with only three layoffs in the 2.7% tax increase. a full percentage point below the average of the last four years. back on about 12 likes on facebook. i got some presidential, 500 likes on facebook. this'll be a real head, sherry. >> sometimes a refresh. there must not be reading it. >> but it is as a tool, the important conversations, those have to have when you have so much attention. they can give you their attention. you can give them yours. there is no push but my to replicate that. but as a forum, to share the implications and sometimes to allow a dialect to
taxes to the middle class has been buried the last four years. >> dramatic admission today about the president's first term from vice president biden. which gave republicans some predebate ammunition. though he charged bush policies are to blame. >> by the time we were elected they had eight years doubled the national debt. debt clock. doubled it. in addition to that, they had the slowest job private job growth since world war ii under this policy. >> another key debate topic, healthcare. romney is defensive about his massachusetts plan. today, the obama camp charged the promise to repeal the president's law will knock millions off the insurance. republicans are circulating a secretly recorded video of a recent meeting among local government officials here in henderson where the president is doing debate prep. officials discuss how implementing the president's law will cost city employees an extra $40 a month. >> a challenge beyond belief. >> in exclusive interview with fox in nevada, senator marco rubio says the video shows the issue will blow up on the president. >> that's the
the rich shouldn't have any sort of implications of their taxes changed. senator menendez, you will portrayed be a tax-and-spend liberal. let's move beyond clichÉs right now. tell me specifically, what one thing about your opponent makes him less qualified than you to serve in the u.s. senate. senator kyrillos, you can go first. kyrillos: well, senator menendez mentions the middle-class. he mentioned it tonight, does it fairly often. but up, the middle-class is not doing very well at all. we've got to do better. and so, you know, i read the press releases that you put out and i've heard your opening statement, but i don't hear any action items about how we are going to do it better. and so, i've got a plan. i know that if we do what we've been doing, more of the same, well, we will have the same outcome and that is unacceptable for the people of new jersey and unacceptable for americans. so let's do some things differently. if your way worked, well, we would have 43 straight months of 8% plus unemployment. let's get the job done. >> moderator: senator menendez. menendez: my op
is governor romney with sean manty last night. >> what i find so offensive about his tax plan, by raising taxes on small business, as he does, he will kill jobs. and right now, what america needs, as much as anything else is more jobs, more jobs more take-home pay. is the whole focus of my campaign. i know what the president's been campaigning on and saying about me is very different than what i actually am, what i actually believe. that is where the difference came. what the president has been saying and reality are pretty far apart. martha: that in the mix this morning. a lot to add into the picture. senior nothing correspondent john roberts is live from st. petersburg, florida, today. that's where we find governor romney. he will hold a rally there later today. what about the aspect of truth of issue in this campaign, john? >> reporter: oh, this is turning out to be a real battle between taxes and the truth, martha. let's handle taxes first of all. governor romney on the stump is insisting his 20% across the board reduction in tax rates would benefit and middle class and small business
so you can decide. >> steve: president obama raising taxes is the only way to dig america out of the ditch. >> it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopp holes that affect only high income individuals math. it is aryth metic. >> steve: really. governor romney said cu. >> brian: this might ease your fears. free flightts to leave the country if your guy goes down. "fox and friends", we are up and we are on right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> congratulations to you mr. president on your anniversary. i am sure this is the most romantic place you can imagine, here we me. i like pbs and big bird and you, too. i will not spend money borrowing from china to pay for it. >> american people have to ask is the reason governor rum rhumb all of the plans because they are too good. >> look, i have five boys, i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and hoping i will believe it. that is not the case. a friend of mine said you pick losers. . you are ened to your own plane and house. >> two minutes is up. >> i had five second
the so-called political zingers. among the topics that generated the most heat, taxes. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale that you're talking about. my view is that we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class. but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. high income people are doing just fine in this economy. they'll do fine whether you're president or i am. the people having the hard time are middle income americans. under the president's policy, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the definite it or burdeneni ing the middle class. it's hamath. >> another hot topic, the deficit. >> it's now four years later, we stil
it comes to tax loopholes and maybe specifics when he talks about the 47%? >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. john harwood had a great piece in today's "new york times" talking about how rarely does a debate alter the outcome of a presidential race. so, you know, a good one liner may take -- get people to take notice but i don't think it turns around the momentum. he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the incarnation who has sought the presidency trying to appease all the ideologues on the right end of the spectrum. >> that is the opposite of a man you as a conservative does not want to see. you do not want to see massachusetts
on tax, healthcare and foreign policy. president obama and romney face off tomorrow night in denver. the stakes are especially high for romney when it comes to women voters. we'll have more on that at 7:15 when we go live to our washington, d.c. bureau. >>> the oakland as beat the texas rangers, 4-3. the as are heading back to the playoffs for first time in six years. [ cheers ] >> struck out all three batters at the top of the 9th. the celebration started. that means at the very least, the as clinched one of the two american league championships. the celebration moved into the clubhouse. the champagne, the beer was knowing. the players started dancing, too. coco crisp played a big role in the game, doubling in the go- ahead run and epscoreed the eventual run. you know, you wouldn't think that all of these rookies would be doing something like this but they have better mentality and they have this useful spark. >> yeah. the as have two games left, tonight and tomorrow afternoon. the now -- they are now one game behind texas. if they win both against the rangers the as will be the we
taxes and reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is there's no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i want to underline that. virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> that's three different moments during this debate when mitt romney noticed the bump in the set for obama. what he's saying there is he's arguing against math. the idea that you can cut faxes 20%, can you tell taxes for everybody and it's deficit neutral and faye for it by closing unspecified loop moles and dealing with deductions. that is the romney position. it's up to bahama to make romney get specific about it to say okay. it's easy to say you deal with the deductions and it's easy to say it's deficit neutral and let's talk about the specific deductions and talk about the home interest deduction and health care
. >> virtually everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. your title as a president, you own an airplane and a house, but not your own facts. >> the president did not seem to ben his game. can one night change the race? >>> "today" exclusive, matt's rare and revealing interview with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg, how does he deal with the spotlight? and does he take responsibility for his company's recent struggles? >> the question i ask myself and i hear over and over, if a company has a billion customers, how can they not be killing it making money? >> that answer as the social network reaches a major milestone today. >>> and remember the school bus monitor taunted by middle schoolers. what she's doing to turn her story into something positive today, thursday, october 4th, 2012. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> and good morning. welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm savannah gurthrie. >> we both had a late night. >> a lot of coffee. >> exactly. this debate as we know was billed as make or break for mitt romney. and by all accounts he made it last night, the c
us more tax increases and more regulated debt. >> eric: talk about the real personal income and durable goods. that is, why? >> what we earn is important to our spending power and standard of living. we are down $4000. and that is real disposable income. and looking over the period of the president's term, we are down $4000 median per household . durable good orders. machines. cars and trucks and planes. down 13 percent. one month that is a decline and that points to recession. >> steve: seems like we are slowing down. over in trouble in europe and nothing on horizon. everybody slog down and america could leave the world out of america could expand and drag the world with it >> eric: personal income is down especially with gas at four bucks a gallon. >> national average 3.80. >> brian: fewer dollars to spend. >> we have food price inflation. our standard of living is declining. are you better off, no. you are not better off. >> steve: stewart i talked to a number of business owners and they were reluctant to hire. if mitt romney is elected president of the united states. wou
and on the state exchanges, that the congress forced the state to raise taxes and tell them how to pend it the supreme court weighed in on that. the statute is 2700 pages long and there are many other challenges in the court system to other parts of the statu. there are 45 plaintiffs all religious organizations many of them catholic and arch dose dose of new york challenged the so-called employer man date. the employer man date requires employers to buy health insurance that makes services available that violate the employer's values like birth control and abortion and euthaniasia. this would apply to universities and students. can yesterday the supreme court recognized one of the employer mandate challenges made its way to the federal appellate court and the appeals court said we don't want to hear supreme court said we are about to tell the appeals court to hear this. so it can make its way to us. the supreme court will rule on this next year rather than three or four years from now. >> gretchen: what is the messaging from the supreme court that they would tell a court below to rule o
't pay federal income taxes. >> there are 47% of the people who vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i've said something that's completely wrong. >> reporter: romney heads next to florida where his economic message will still resonate. that state's unemployment rate while it has gone down in recent months is still well above the national average. wolf. >> jim acosta joining us, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, this unemployment number, the new number, how important is it to each of these two candidates? >> well, first of all it's got to be a real boost for president obama as jessica was talking about earlier. if not reality, then also a real psychological boost to get below that 8% figure. very important
proposal calls for a tax cut on top of $2 trillion of spending. >> everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. >> reporter: there's no time for rest. the senior advisers on the "today" show, early this morning. >> governor romney put more preparation into it than they did into the invasion of normandy. i expected a strong performance and got it. >> many were watching governor romney without 30 second attack ads. >> reporter: perhaps most evidence during the closing statement. >> four years ago, i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's probably a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i fight every day for the american people. >> no question in my mind, if the president were to continue to be reelected, there will be a middle class squeeze. i'll get incomes up again. >> they weren't the only characters in last night's debate. twitter and face book lit up with viewers commenting and arguing. it was the most tweeted event in political history. ket? >> the
taxes, $716 billion out of medicare. it's not right senator. >> the next question. >> early in the debate you said as you often do that this country has experienced 43 months of over 8% unemployment and on your website under joe's plan you say in new jersey they have shown there is a better way. so why is unemployment in this state 9.9% if you've shown the better way? >> because we don't have a strong national economy, because the senator and his colleagues and the executive branch are following a path that is failing us. and if we elect them yet again, we'll get more of the same. there is nothing wrong with our new jersey economy that a roaring national economy wouldn't cure. now here at home, we're doing everything we can to make things right. we're balancing our budgets, we're doing it without tax increases. we are rolling out economic incentives. we do things and we do it in a by partisan way because many of our successes, all of them by necessity, we do with the democratic leadership in the legislature. so can you image if you're former colleague was governor of this st
the math work on his deficit plan and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. he doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion. doesn't say how he's going to do it. you know, let's be fair here. governor romney has laid out a direction and a vision for the direction of this country. he's not an accountant. he's not going to go line by line as much as you'd like him to do through the budget. but let's hold the president to the same standard and criticize him as well. >>> good morning, it is monday, october 1st. it's october, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." >> yeah, you know who's glad september's over? >> who? >> the jets. holy cow! >> i thought you were going to say mitt romney. with us on set, we have msnbc and "time" senior political editor mark halperin and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine john heilemann. guys. hi, willie. >> he
. >> i would like to see some details both from romney and obama mainly on tax policy. >> reporter: vice president biden charged today, team romney would hike middle class taxes. >> how they can justify raising taxes of the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: the republicans jumped on that. buried by obama? in colorado, mitt romney took a break for a burrito bowl. >> how are you doing today? >> reporter: romney's number two, paul ryan, kept campaigning. >> the obama economic agenda failed not because it was stopped. it failed because it was passed. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard tomorrow night. doug, andrew and chris say they hope to hear a lot of substance, too. a debate number one in their battleground state. >> reporter: so how critical will this first presidential debate be? today's nbc news "wall street journal" poll finds 38%, more than a third of voters say this debate and the ones to follow will be quite important or extremely important to their decision about who to vote for. live from denver, i'm steve handelsman, news 4.
we need time to fix it, and by the way, the president will also say that he wants to increase taxes on people like mitt romney to help pay down some of that debt. >> reporter: we just put of that graphic there showing the $16 trillion of debt and there are so many digits it almost doesn't fit on the tv screen across the screen there, as you can see. but haven't americans in some way become number to astronomical numbers? how serious is this in. >> they have become number. is it the new normal this massive spilling of red ink but it raises three problems which i don't think the nation has got even to grips with yet. number one our economy is smaller than our debt. we look like europe, we know what happened there. number two we are spending $9 billion every week just paying interest on this debt, about a quarter of it goes overseas. and number 3, we are paying for this debt by printing money. so here is the question, allison, what happens when we stop printing as we inevitably will at some point, what happens when people stop lending us the money because we've borrowed so much. what h
and minimize taxes. they got him ted dead to rights again. i don't know if any american cares. do you remember how the kennedys made their money? >> i think there was some boot legging. >> might have been a little boot legging. john kerry married and then left his yacht in providence or something, didn't he. and then john edwards flipping his magnetic business card at all the ambulances going by made $80 million. it's weird, isn't it? >> he was a good lawyer. >> and a hell of a human being, too, johnny. we have ten seconds. >> i don't think additional incremental disclosures about offshore investments will make a big deal. >> all right, my friend, thank you. >>> when we come back, we'll get to kevin ferry from the cme, we'll find out what's most likely to drive action on the second day of the quarter. smart comes with 8 airbags, 3 a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. becau
around the country this past year promising $5 trillion tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> romney is rolling out new campaign ads as well as new talking points over the next few days and weeks. his goal is to convince the american public that he is ready to be president. more coming up live after the break. stay with us. matter. >> i wouldn't be where i am today if it wasn't for capella university. i go to work every day and know that i make a difference. when patients leave this office they have hope in their eyes. it make me feel like i'm really doing what i was meant to do. they have given me the tools that i need to be the best "me" that i can be. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv. this is the "bill press show." >> good morning, and welcome back to the "bill press show," i'm jamal simmons, not bill press. i was here a couple of days ago and happy to be back. i'm here with my good friends, peter ogburn is in the back controlling -- >> t
't matter whether it is a tax bill, a spending bill, a supreme court nomination, whatever it is. there is going to be a vote, and every democrat is going to be on one side and every public and will be on the other side. it's like we have two separate congresses. not a united states congress, but a very republican congress and fighting for it advantage in fighting to win the next election. that did not happen by accident. it did not happen by accident. i believe in the free enterprise system and i believe in incentives. they work. we have created a political system in which every incentive is to not cooperate and not compromise and not talk to somebody who has different ideas than your own. and you know, that's great. it's great to be pure on your principal. but we are a nation of 310 million people. and we have all different backgrounds and we have all different life experiences and we have different ideas that we feel strongly about. the way a democracy the size has to work. no matter how deeply you feel about one issue or another, at some point, you have to be able to sit down
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